Apr 20, 2026
In this episode, host Mark talks
with James Thornton, CEO of Daz
3D / Tafi, about what it really means to build
an AI-centric business. James shares how his
company evolved from a 3D content and avatar business into a key AI
data provider for some of the world’s largest tech and gaming
brands.
They discuss:
- The shift from scraping web data to bespoke,
rights-clean AI training data
- Using AI across product, marketing, and customer
service workflows
- Real-world applications in VR, robotics,
gaming, and product
visualization
- How AI is transforming email marketing and
localization
- What the next 3 years of AI
adoption will look like inside typical
organizations
Key Topics & Timestamps
[0:00:00] – Introduction & Guest Background
- Mark opens the show and frames the
topic: AI-centric businesses with a marketing
slant.
- James introduces himself and his company Daz 3D /
Tafi.
- His background:
- CEO at Daz for over a decade
- Previous role growing a creative product brand from near zero
to a $1B retail brand in 3.5–4
years
- How Daz has continually pivoted into AI
trends
[0:01:18] – What It Means to Be an AI-Centric
Business
- James
defines AI-centric as “AI-first”
thinking across the business, especially in
marketing.
- Emphasis on balancing AI with people, expertise,
and intuition, rather than AI replacing human
judgment.
[0:01:37] – Daz / Tafi’s Evolution into AI
- Company roots:
- 25-year-old business with a
strong direct-to-consumer freemium model
- Deep community of 3D digital content
creators (avatars, products for gaming, etc.)
- Past pivots: work
in Web3 and NFTs,
then parlaying that into today’s AI data and
services.
- They now both:
- Support other companies’ AI
initiatives
- Use AI internally to streamline content creation
and business workflows
[0:03:37] – How They Help Other Companies with
AI
- Core specialty: 3D digital content, avatar
systems, and digital assets.
- Use AI and procedural tools to:
- Scale their content library
- Produce rights-clean, structured, annotated AI
training data
- Customers include top tech, gaming, and enterprise
brands training foundation models for:
- Text-to-character
- Product creation & visualization
(including physical product development)
- Robotics and other AI applications
[0:04:51] – Concrete Benefits of AI for Clients and
Daz
- Central thesis: Good AI requires high-quality
training data.
- For clients:
- Bespoke, properly licensed data for training a wide range of
models
- For Daz’s own business:
- AI embedded in product
workflows and content
production
- AI in product
search, customer
service, QA, and other functions to
drive efficiency and effectiveness
[0:06:07] – AI Agents and Localization
- Use of AI agents in customer service
to handle technical tickets and customer questions.
- Heavy focus on localization:
- AI to adapt website and e-commerce for global
markets
- Integrating translation tools directly into their software so
customers can use products in their native
language
- James calls this a “huge lift” for the
business.
[0:07:45] – Tools: Open “Claw” and Enterprise AI
Options
- They use Open “Claw” (contextually,
likely a reference to a general-purpose LLM) through virtual
machines across business units, including marketing.
- Acknowledge recent changes in that
ecosystem and the need to adapt.
- Considering more enterprise-focused
alternatives, such as the “Nemo Claw” and other
corporate-friendly solutions, with an eye
on governance and parameters.
[0:08:54] – Their Process for Helping Enterprise
Clients
- First step: deeply understand voice of the
customer and specific AI data needs.
- Industry shift:
- Moving away from scraping the internet or generic
licensing for training data
- Toward custom, bespoke training sets
- Unique position of Daz / Tafi:
- Own the full rights to their 3D
content library (avatars, scenes, props)
- Avoid ethical and legal issues around unauthorized training
data
- Process:
- Scope the client’s needs.
- Use AI and internal workflows to generate
customized datasets.
- Example:
- For a major tech company building VR headset
experiences, they created tens of thousands
of unique characters, avatars, clothing, and
assets to train their models.
- James notes they might be the only
company able to deliver this level of tailored
solution at that scale.
[0:11:34] – The Next 3 Years: How AI Changes
Organizations
- Based on discussions with CEOs and senior leaders:
- Debate continues on whether AI creates or
eliminates jobs; James personally believes it
will create jobs.
- Near-unanimous view: every
company must integrate AI into workflows.
- Employees and companies with a clear AI
strategy will win versus
those without one.
- Expectation:
- Continued job creation plus a strong push
for AI-centric efforts in every part of the
business
- Focus on efficiency, output, and more bespoke
customer solutions
[0:13:25] – Advice to Marketers & Final
Takeaways
- James emphasizes “just get
started” and experiment with AI.
- For marketers:
- AI enables hyper-specific
adaptation to customer needs.
- Allows new ways of marketing that aren’t feasible manually
today.
- Example from their own marketing stack:
- Their largest marketing channel
is email
- They manage a seven-figure, vetted email
list mailed daily
- AI is used to:
- Optimize send times
- Customize products and offers by
demographic and other signals
- Overall message:
- Embrace AI to become more effective and
deliver better, more tailored customer experiences.
[0:14:58] – How to Contact James
-
Website: Daz3D –
daz3d.com
- Direct email: james@maketafi.com
- James invites listeners to contact him
directly with questions.